Sega Saturn Core in Development

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i would also like to see CPS3 on the MiSTer
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It would be nice, but I would much prefer that other systems being prioritised since the Dreamcast got 5/6 of the CPS-3 games.
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the_importer wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:43 pm It would be nice, but I would much prefer that other systems being prioritised since the Dreamcast got 5/6 of the CPS-3 games.
It's not like there is anyway to port the Dreamcast on the Mister though :lol: ... Not in full FPGA way anyway.
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Neocaron wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:35 am
the_importer wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:43 pm It would be nice, but I would much prefer that other systems being prioritised since the Dreamcast got 5/6 of the CPS-3 games.
It's not like there is anyway to port the Dreamcast on the Mister though :lol: ... Not in full FPGA way anyway.
Doubt anyone in this community doesn't own a Dreamcast.
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Would the Sega Saturn core be interchangeable with the Sega ST-V games?
[all assuming development goes as planned of course]
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the_importer wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:40 am
Neocaron wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:35 am
the_importer wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:43 pm It would be nice, but I would much prefer that other systems being prioritised since the Dreamcast got 5/6 of the CPS-3 games.
It's not like there is anyway to port the Dreamcast on the Mister though :lol: ... Not in full FPGA way anyway.
Doubt anyone in this community doesn't own a Dreamcast.
I have a used one actually XD
Too much crazy taxi and soul calibur turned it into a very tired grandma. It goes back to the idea that hardware fails and dies. Especially that gen.
The idea behind FPGA is also to preserve forever the fonctional blueprint of a said hardware. At the same time it's probably close to imposible to create an FPGA implementation of the Dreamcast and up even with all the space in the world... at least in a time where it would make sense. Emulation is probably the only way to go from there.
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Neocaron wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:05 am
the_importer wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:40 am
Neocaron wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:35 am

It's not like there is anyway to port the Dreamcast on the Mister though :lol: ... Not in full FPGA way anyway.
Doubt anyone in this community doesn't own a Dreamcast.
I have a used one actually XD
Too much crazy taxi and soul calibur turned it into a very tired grandma. It goes back to the idea that hardware fails and dies. Especially that gen.
The idea behind FPGA is also to preserve forever the fonctional blueprint of a said hardware. At the same time it's probably close to imposible to create an FPGA implementation of the Dreamcast and up even with all the space in the world... at least in a time where it would make sense. Emulation is probably the only way to go from there.
There's more to the MiSTer in terms of FPGA to preserve game. An ODE does have FPGA in it and what do you know, the Dreamcast happens to have a few ODE's at its disposal including one that's been cloned the easily obtainable on Amazon.
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Kannibal wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:21 am Would the Sega Saturn core be interchangeable with the Sega ST-V games?
[all assuming development goes as planned of course]
ST-V has an extra I/O chip to handle the standard player/coin inputs rather than routing those through SMPC, so it's not just a matter of loading the right ROMs into a Saturn core. That being said, the chip in question seems pretty simple, so a developer could probably deal with it after higher-priority stuff is done. Some games have protection chips or custom controllers, which would complicate things.
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I going cry if this core comes available.. My Saturn games were stolen by the gameshop nedgame many years ago. The store owner promised to try and remove a few scratches that were bothering me. So I brought my games in and I never got them back. It included games like panzer dragoon, dragon force, shining Forge 3. The one I miss most is Story Of Thor 2. I never could find a affordable copy anymore. With this core I finally will be able to play them.
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ClassicGamerNL wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:06 am I going cry if this core comes available.. My Saturn games were stolen by the gameshop nedgame many years ago. The store owner promised to try and remove a few scratches that were bothering me. So I brought my games in and I never got them back. It included games like panzer dragoon, dragon force, shining Forge 3. The one I miss most is Story Of Thor 2. I never could find a affordable copy anymore. With this core I finally will be able to play them.
Does this forum have an add button? I'd like to add this user as a friend and give him my support. That sounds horrible!

To the person who said do Dreamcast instead of CPS3, while I agree the Dreamcast would be fire! It's attitudes like this that would prevent us from seeing Red Earth come to the Mister. That would be a strong selling point to the whole Mister set-up to me, so would Saturn and Playstation.

Personally I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for Panasonic 3DO. After all it's the Real Interactive Multiplayer System
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Captain FPGA wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:39 am Does this forum have an add button? I'd like to add this user as a friend and give him my support. That sounds horrible!
Yes, in the User Control Panel, last tab.

Captain FPGA wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:39 am Personally I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for Panasonic 3DO.
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I am so happy to see a Saturn core being dev'd! I don't yet own a MiSTer but a good Saturn core would help push me to buy for sure.
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+1 for 3DO :)
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sardine wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:07 pm+1 for 3DO :)
Shout out to Gex, Super Turbo, Sailor Moon, Crash N Burn.

The real interactive multiplayer system.
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NEW VIDEO (Nov 5, 2021)

(Warning: flickering lights)


Features four Saturn games.
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:o :shock:
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Fantastic progress! Really looking forward to trying this core.
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I asked srg on Patreon about the potential for a beta core release and he said it's not ready yet, and indicated his goal was to get it from dual SDRAM to single SDRAM before any public releases. Makes sense to me.
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Mr. Encyclopedia wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:51 pm I asked srg on Patreon about the potential for a beta core release and he said it's not ready yet, and indicated his goal was to get it from dual SDRAM to single SDRAM before any public releases. Makes sense to me.
Let us pray to the FPGA gods that he can make it happen!
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Another update video. Looking great!
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Another excellent progress update video from srg320 on the status of the Sega Saturn core.

Please support him if you can via patreon: https://www.patreon.com/srg320

SCSP: fix signed shift in volume calculation (thanks to Sorgelig).

VDP1:

-fix coordinate calculation for Scaled Sprite.

-fix color calculation (transparent text boxes in Blazing Heroes)

VDP2:

-add support windows.

-add support reduce/expand (zooming backgrounds in Guardian Heroes).

-add support hi-res mode (title screen in Nights into Dreams).

-add support shadow.

-rework Rotation Scroll Screen logic.

SCU: fixes DMA operation.


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This looks like it could go into a beta phase anytime now... It's pretty amazing stuff between this and the PSX core, we are so spoiled and lucky!
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Looks like it runs guardian hero’s better than my real Saturn does right now 😂
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Looking good. I'm massively looking forwards to this and the PSX cores
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Yeah it's looking about equal to how well the PSX core runs right now. From looking at the Patreon comments it seems like Sergey hasn't started on implementing save games yet, and I assume it's still running as dual SDRAM.
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Mr. Encyclopedia wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:48 pm Yeah it's looking about equal to how well the PSX core runs right now. From looking at the Patreon comments it seems like Sergey hasn't started on implementing save games yet, and I assume it's still running as dual SDRAM.
In the comments on the Youtube video he says that it only runs about 20 games right now. It still has quite a ways to go.
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Just to clarify. I'm only testing US region games for now. My US folder contains 135 games, about 25 of them are fully playable with minor graphical or sound issues. I'm not testing JP/EU region games yet because it takes more time.
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srg320 wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:45 am Just to clarify. I'm only testing US region games for now. My US folder contains 135 games, about 25 of them are fully playable with minor graphical or sound issues. I'm not testing JP/EU region games yet because it takes more time.
Thanks for the update! There are a good number of people with dual RAM set ups now from testing the PS1 core, so if you ever need people to help test your core then please let us know.
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the_importer wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:40 am
Neocaron wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:35 am
the_importer wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:43 pm It would be nice, but I would much prefer that other systems being prioritised since the Dreamcast got 5/6 of the CPS-3 games.
It's not like there is anyway to port the Dreamcast on the Mister though :lol: ... Not in full FPGA way anyway.
Doubt anyone in this community doesn't own a Dreamcast.
i dont own one. i would like to have CPS3 on the Mister. That and all MKs. That would round up my wishlist.
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Question: would it be possible to use the Saturn core as a start for STV arcade cores, or even implement the Sega STV core into the Saturn?
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