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Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:58 am
by aberu
I could see PS1 core being in beta with a few games bootable probably this summer. It's going faster than people probably think. But a full complete feeling experience I would predict fall or winter 2021.

If the PS1 core gets done successfully, there are some major components then which would be completed which make up the Namco System 12 arcade board (https://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=535), which could then very well be done in FPGA at that point. It's basically a slightly modified PSX motherboard and chips. And the same goes for the Namco System 11 (http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=533). The arcade board potential from a working PS1 core is pretty good.

Also the Capcom Sony ZN-2 could be done as well if the PS1 is completed. It actually uses Q Sound (which jotego is already mostly completed I think) instead of the PS1 SPU, but has all the other hardware from the PS1. If the PS1 gets done, it really opens up a lot of other stuff potentially. Add the ZN-1 on there too apparently. Same kinda deal.

To those who are saying saturn is impossible on the MiSTer, I'd push back on that. It's more complex, but it won't necessarily take more space. I do think if we do see it, that it would be in 2022 though. If ElectronAsh and a few others I've talked to thinks it's doable, I'll take their word for it. ;)

N64 is probably impossible on the MiSTer, but Mazamars is making good progress from my understanding on his more expensive development board. :)

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:58 pm
by ARCADEAGES
In 2021 we're going to (hopefully) see:

- 2nd X68000 core by Jotego -

Jotego mentioned this himself. Someone asked if he would be contributing to the existing core, and he said no. It will be a brand-new core done from scratch. Jotego choosing to do this is the result of a request from one of his top-tier Patreons.

- SEGA System-16 by Jotego -

Jotego has been talking about this board-set for a long time, and only paused on it when MiSTer-X said they'd do it. MiSTer-X has been inactive for an extended time on his core, and it does not look like he will be able to return any time soon. System-16 is a personal favourite of Jotego's.

- Konami Aliens by RndMnkIII -

I'm less confident in this prediction as this is the author's first core. He seems to be making useful progress though! Another reason I think this core will come out is I just bought the PCB, so that means a core is coming out :lol:

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:03 pm
by Hodor
ARCADEAGES wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:58 pm In 2021 we're going to (hopefully) see:

- 2nd X68000 core by Jotego -

Jotego mentioned this himself. Someone asked if he would be contributing to the existing core, and he said no. It will be a brand-new core done from scratch. Jotego choosing to do this is the result of a request from one of his top-tier Patreons.

- SEGA System-16 by Jotego -

Jotego has been talking about this board-set for a long time, and only paused on it when MiSTer-X said they'd do it. MiSTer-X has been inactive for an extended time on his core, and it does not look like he will be able to return any time soon. System-16 is a personal favourite of Jotego's.

- Konami Aliens by RndMnkIII -

I'm less confident in this prediction as this is the author's first core. He seems to be making useful progress though! Another reason I think this core will come out is I just bought the PCB, so that means a core is coming out :lol:
The last two would make my whole damn year :lol:

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:28 am
by Newsdee
I don't think the first 2 have been confirmed yet? Realistically Jotego will still be busy with CPS2 for the next few months.

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:00 pm
by matthewpont
ARCADEAGES wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:58 pm In 2021 we're going to (hopefully) see:

- 2nd X68000 core by Jotego -

Jotego mentioned this himself. Someone asked if he would be contributing to the existing core, and he said no. It will be a brand-new core done from scratch. Jotego choosing to do this is the result of a request from one of his top-tier Patreons.

- SEGA System-16 by Jotego -

Jotego has been talking about this board-set for a long time, and only paused on it when MiSTer-X said they'd do it. MiSTer-X has been inactive for an extended time on his core, and it does not look like he will be able to return any time soon. System-16 is a personal favourite of Jotego's.

- Konami Aliens by RndMnkIII -

I'm less confident in this prediction as this is the author's first core. He seems to be making useful progress though! Another reason I think this core will come out is I just bought the PCB, so that means a core is coming out :lol:
I'd love SEGA System-16 and Konami Aliens too. Shinobi and Aliens are my two favourite arcade games!

Also, like you, I bought an Aliens PCB last month, and this almost certainly means that a core will be released for it!

(If I'm greedy, I'd also love a Data East core, so I can play Robocop)

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:54 pm
by sid
I'm hoping for the release of the atari falcon core someday

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:16 pm
by axebox
ExCyber wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:52 am
431Unknown wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:33 pm I think its a shame no one has been working on arcade cores for any of the Gradius arcade games, Lifeforce / Salamander, R-Type, or Image Fight.
I did a first pass at Gradius a while ago, but sort of burned myself out on it trying to understand how the graphics rendering is actually supposed to work. Also, fully accurate timing/slowdown would probably require reverse-engineering of the original chipset.
What is the gameplay like without the slowdown accuracy? It's actually one of the projects that some have undertaken to remove slowdown from these types of games.

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:30 pm
by Kaeril
I would love to see the Wonderswan (B/W & Color) being worked on this year. I have no idea if it's already in the works somewhere.
NeoGeo Pocket would be another handheld I would like seeing this year.

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:57 pm
by Chris23235
I would love to see ElectronAsh working again on the Jaguar core. What he has achieved so far is already impressive for such an early version.

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:42 pm
by akeley
axebox wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:16 pm What is the gameplay like without the slowdown accuracy? It's actually one of the projects that some have undertaken to remove slowdown from these types of games.
The issue of slowdown in arcade games is rather complex. In some games it might've been intentional, in others not so much, and down to weaker hardware/programming (eg Metal Slug 2). I suppose entirely removing it in some shoot'em ups would make them much harder, in some cases perhaps even unplayable.

Here are some different opinions regarding Cave's games:
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.p ... 2&start=30
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39956

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:57 pm
by Waifu4Life
akeley wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:42 pm
axebox wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:16 pm What is the gameplay like without the slowdown accuracy? It's actually one of the projects that some have undertaken to remove slowdown from these types of games.
The issue of slowdown in arcade games is rather complex. In some games it might've been intentional, in others not so much, and down to weaker hardware/programming (eg Metal Slug 2). I suppose entirely removing it in some shoot'em ups would make them much harder, in some cases perhaps even unplayable.

Here are some different opinions regarding Cave's games:
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.p ... 2&start=30
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39956
I thought Metal Slug X was the slowdown solution of Metal Slug 2.

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:03 pm
by akeley
the_importer wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:57 pm I thought Metal Slug X was the slowdown solution of Metal Slug 2.
Yes, that's the point. It got fixed in X becasue the original one wasn't intentional. This perhaps deserves its own thread though...

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:53 pm
by _paul_
Would be nice to see the Exidy Sorcerer appear in a roadmap. If only for the space I could gain selling the original hardware. 🙄

Of course, that’s not a console, handheld or arcade..

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:25 pm
by chris
Virtual Boy would be pretty cool. I love rallying around things with the community every time something new is released, so honestly, I'll be happy with anything that's released.

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:57 am
by pbsk8
game & watch

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:32 am
by gus0650
i am hoping for

Missile Command
Gradius
Salamander
RType
Marble Madness
Gyruss
Quartet
Juno First

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:29 am
by JudgeDrokk
I hold a candle for Nintendo's "Space Firebird" coinop. :-)

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:21 pm
by twonunpackmule
chris wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:25 pm Virtual Boy would be pretty cool. I love rallying around things with the community every time something new is released, so honestly, I'll be happy with anything that's released.
I would love for it to also support 3D output. I still have a 3D Plasma and that would be a great combo.

Re: What new console, handheld or arcade core do you think will be released in 2021?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:16 pm
by LamerDeluxe
twonunpackmule wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:21 pm
chris wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:25 pm Virtual Boy would be pretty cool. I love rallying around things with the community every time something new is released, so honestly, I'll be happy with anything that's released.
I would love for it to also support 3D output. I still have a 3D Plasma and that would be a great combo.
Same! I have lots of 3D displays, including an OLED one. They are all passive, so half over/under would work best on them to preserve the image quality. Though interlaced might work as well (maybe not with the OLED TV though).